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Post by pacer1965 on Aug 19, 2024 20:08:58 GMT
Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I asked this on AHQ but it got moved in the bugs thread. I wanted to ask how to stop the snow from coming into Planet Honey Pop? I'm no good at building
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Post by GlacierSnow on Aug 19, 2024 20:18:57 GMT
pacer1965 It probably has something wrong with its roof, since the City Living came out before Seasons. Some of the official buildings from packs before Seasons weren't build well for the weather. I'm actually loading up the game right now, so I'll take a quick look and see if I can spot what's wrong with it.
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Post by pacer1965 on Aug 19, 2024 20:46:32 GMT
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Post by GlacierSnow on Aug 19, 2024 20:50:51 GMT
Okay... I see what you're talking about. Snow is appearing on the floor of the main room. Now that I am taking a look at it, I think the problem is actually that the main room was built using single walls and they didn't join up to make an actual enclosed space. It's not actually a complete room even though it looks like one. So the game think it's outdoors. I'm going to do a little testing to see if that's right. If that's actually what the problem is, I think I know how to fix it. I'll report back in a bit.
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Post by ellupelluellu on Aug 19, 2024 20:58:48 GMT
Thank you for bringing this up. It always annoyed me, but never enough to try to fix it. I am lazy, perhaps
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Post by MonaSolstraale on Aug 19, 2024 21:28:17 GMT
Thank you for bringing this up. It always annoyed me, but never enough to try to fix it. I am lazy, perhaps I know all about being a lazy builder 😂 (So ​​am I) There's something about Planet Honey Pop that makes it hard to change. I once tried to make a scene in the building. It destroys the whole structure. I am curious if you find a solution GlacierSnow
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Post by GlacierSnow on Aug 19, 2024 21:33:48 GMT
Well, turns out it's more complicated to fix than I originally thought. Part of the problem is that round cornered stage. City Living came out before interior platforms were added to the game (pre-Snowy Escape patch), so they had to do something kind of weird to make an indoor raised area. I think I may be able to still work with it and fix it, but it will take a little longer than I thought and be a lot harder to explain to you the steps of how to do it yourself. Let me see what I can do with it. If I do manage to fix it, I can put it on the gallery for you.
But if you haven't already, you might search the gallery for Planet Honey Pop fix and see if someone else has already done it.
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Post by GlacierSnow on Aug 19, 2024 21:57:06 GMT
There's something about Planet Honey Pop that makes it hard to change. I once tried to make a scene in the building. It destroys the whole structure. I am curious if you find a solution GlacierSnow
Whoever built this lot wanted it to have a raised, round cornered stage for the large karaoke machine. But this was back in the days before interior platforms (added to base game when Snowy Escape came out) and also before round walled rooms (added... uh... I forget exactly when... but even more recently than the platforms). So they had to do something "clever" to build what they wanted.
They used a round cornered porch (those existed back then) for the stage, and then used single walls to make an area that looked like an enclosed room, but was technically outdoors, around it. This was not a problem at the time because Seasons did not exist yet. At some point after Seasons came out, there was a change made to the single wall tool, so that if you place single walls together in an enclosed way, they will link up and form a room (most of the time). But back when this lot was built that was not the case. Single walls stayed single walls, not actually connected even though they are touching and look like a room. You can tell that the main room of this build is not actually a room by trying to select the whole room (as though you are going to move it). You can't. Because the walls are all separated.
I've encountered some other pre-Seasons builds with "rooms" like that. Normally, you can easily fix them by using the Custom Room Tool (the one with the icon that looks like a hinged wall) with which you can re-trace the room's shape to make it actually join up as a proper room. This deletes the wall textures, but if you make a note of them beforehand you can just replace them, and all is well.
Unfortunately, in Planet Honey Pop, because of that round cornered stage made out of a porch, this is not going well. Re-tracing the main room with the Custom Room Tool causes the floor to rise up to the level of the stage (making there not be a step up). I tried to recreate the stage using the round cornered wall feature and the interior platform tool, but it is glitchy at the floor because of the two different floor levels, leaving an unsightly gap with the stage being round, but the floor around it having a straight edge (I think this is a problem with the round wall tool in general).
I think the best I can do is make the stage have straight diagonal corners instead of being round. With straight edges to the stage, I can make it be a raised platform just as it was, except not rounded. It should be possible to fix the snow issue if I do that, but it won't look quite the same.
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Post by MonaSolstraale on Aug 19, 2024 22:38:47 GMT
Yes, that explains why I had to dispose of my dance theater in the basement. Floors and walls shifted uncontrollably above. I had spent many hours at that theater on a less lazy day. The theater was trashed, but the dancers ended up as my test family, so nothing is completely in vain.
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Post by GlacierSnow on Aug 19, 2024 22:41:26 GMT
Okay, I've fixed it. Tested it for almost a full sim day in a heavy snow storm: No snow accumulated on the floor. But this is what I had to do to the stage to make it work. If you're okay with that change, I can put it up on the Gallery after dinner tonight and give you the link. If not, that's fine. It was an interesting challenge to figure out. It's possible someone else has fixed it better, so you might take a look on the Gallery and see.
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Post by ellupelluellu on Aug 20, 2024 13:28:13 GMT
If you're okay with that change, I can put it up on the Gallery after dinner tonight and give you the link. I know you did not ask me but I say anyway : YES PLEASE!!!
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Post by GlacierSnow on Aug 20, 2024 13:36:22 GMT
ellupelluellu Okay! As long as someone wants to use it. I'll put it up. I need to tidy it up a bit first (I think I put the wrong textures on the outside back because I forgot to make notes, and I possibly deleted some chairs by accident). When I get it up on the gallery, I'll leave a link to it here. Shouldn't take too long.
EDIT---- Of course nothing is ever simple. I'm having trouble accessing the Gallery right now. So this may take longer than I said.
UPDATE---- Tried removing my mods, and that did not fix my problem so the gallery may be down right now. I'm online, but both button to place lot on gallery, and page to view things on the gallery are missing. I'll try and put the fixed lot up later when it's working again.
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Post by GlacierSnow on Aug 20, 2024 16:31:32 GMT
I figured it out!!! The "online social features" option in my game was unchecked. I don't recall ever unchecking it, but who knows? *shrug* I am always offline when I play and only go online to download patches or new DLC, or very rarely to use the gallery. Maybe it unchecked itself out of boredom. Here is the link: PlanetHoneyPop- FixedYou can ignore the "Cottage Living" and "Vampires" items icons. I have no idea why those are still showing. When I was first testing, and thought the problem might be the ceiling or roof, I grabbed a random ceiling tile texture which just happened to be from CL to color the ceiling so I could see it better. I later replaced all the ceiling tiles with base game texture. The same thing happened when I grabbed a floor tile from vampires to check if I was really seeing snow on the floor, because the vampire tile's pattern stood out better. I later replaced all the floor tiles with the same floor tiles that were in the original build. But no matter what I do, I can't get it to register that those CL and V tiles aren't there any more. I tried to leave a message about that on the message board for the lot on the gallery, but it won't let me. So, yeah... Maybe it will let me post a comment if someone else does. I don't know. I think I got all the details, other than the fixed walls and the shape of the stage of course, back how they are in the original (all original textures, replaced missing chairs etc.) And I tested for a while in a snow storm, and it appears to be all fixed now.
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Post by ellupelluellu on Aug 20, 2024 16:38:19 GMT
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Post by pacer1965 on Aug 22, 2024 18:35:04 GMT
Thanks so much GlacierSnow I will check it out next time I play my game
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